TNI in Gallery (the New Photos)

[makavelli]

Bogor, Indonesia..
Troops preparing for Bush visit to meet his counterpart president Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f113/helmardani/TNI/72600930.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f113/helmardani/TNI/72600274.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f113/helmardani/TNI/72600317.jpg
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http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f113/helmardani/TNI/72595793.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f113/helmardani/TNI/72595789.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f113/helmardani/TNI/72595786.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f113/helmardani/TNI/72588606.jpg
Non Uniformed person is not civilian
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f113/helmardani/TNI/72595553.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f113/helmardani/TNI/72588599.jpg
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http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f113/helmardani/TNI/72551196.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f113/helmardani/TNI/72551183.jpg

[makavelli]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f113/helmardani/TNI/72597315.jpg
Beirut, LEBANON: An Indonesian UNIFIL soldiers board the USS Wilson cargo ship after in docked at Beirut port loaded with their military vehicles, 18 November 2006.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f113/helmardani/TNI/72597314.jpg
Beirut, LEBANON: An Indonesian UNIFIL truck and a container are unloaded from the USS Wilson cargo ship at Beirut port, 18 November 2006. Indonesia is sending 851 troops to join the UN Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL). Israel, which does not have diplomatic relations with mainly Muslim Indonesia, had initially objected to the involvement of Indonesia in the UN force.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f113/helmardani/TNI/72597281.jpg
Beirut, LEBANON: A UN Indonesian soldier secures containers after they were unloaded from the USS Wilson cargo ship at Beirut port, 18 November 2006.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f113/helmardani/TNI/72597280.jpg
Beirut, LEBANON: Indonesian UNIFIL soldiers push a military vehicle after it was unloaded from the USS Wilson cargo ship at Beirut port, 18 November 2006. Indonesia is sending 851 troops to join the UN Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL).
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f113/helmardani/TNI/72597278.jpg
Beirut, LEBANON: An Indonesian UNIFIL soldier gives instructions as a UN truck is downloaded from the USS Wilson cargo ship at Beirut port, 18 November 2006.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f113/helmardani/TNI/72596982.jpg
Beirut, LEBANON: Lebanese soldiers secure the site where an Indonesian UNIFIL forces ambulance is being unloaded from the USS Wilson cargo ship at Beirut port, 18 November 2006.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f113/helmardani/TNI/72596973.jpg
Beirut, LEBANON: Indonesian army first lieutenant Agus.H.Y (C), son of Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, gestures as he speaks with his colleagues as a military vehicle (background) is downloaded from the USS Wilson cargo ship at Beirut port, 18 November 2006.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f113/helmardani/TNI/72596972.jpg
Beirut, LEBANON: Indonesian UN soldiers look at a Lebanese fisherman fishing at the port of Beirut, 18 November 2006.

[blue_shark]

One thing I found this interesting pix from the same bucket:

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/KOPASKA/KOPASKA%20TNI%20AL/yes22.jpg

TNI soldier on the left, member of SAF Naval Diving Unit(NDU) in the centre and a US Navy SEAL on the right.


sorry but righthand person is RoK Navy UDT/SEAL

[makavelli]

Jakarta After The Riots - Mei 1998
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2376/0000341880002zl1.jpg
JAKARTA AFTER THE RIOTS
Original caption: Military patrol in the Chinese quarter. The Chinese shops are most threatened by the pillages.
Image: © LANGEVIN JACQUES/CORBIS SYGMA
Photographer: Jacques Langevin
Date Photographed: May 16, 1998
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/562/0000341813002so0.jpg
THE CRISIS IN INDONESIA: THE SITUATION IN JAKARTA
Original caption: A patrol group from the Indonesian army arrives at the scene of the pillages in the Chinese quarter.
Image: © CORBIS SYGMA
Photographer: Cornelis Metselaar
Date Photographed: May 14, 1998
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1786/0000341880005aq9.jpg
JAKARTA AFTER THE RIOTS
Original caption: Tanks occupy the town center, while according to witnesses the army did not stop the pillaging.
Image: © LANGEVIN JACQUES/CORBIS SYGMA
Photographer: Jacques Langevin
Date Photographed: May 16, 1998
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7084/0000341880004ya1.jpg
JAKARTA AFTER THE RIOTS
Original caption: Military presence in front of the hotel Hyatt in the town center.
Image: © LANGEVIN JACQUES/CORBIS SYGMA
Photographer: Jacques Langevin
Date Photographed: May 16, 1998
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7567/0000342113007bo6.jpg
CRISIS IN INDONESIA: THE SITUATION IN JAKARTA
Original caption: The town center is occupied and controlled by the army.
Image: © LANGEVIN JACQUES/CORBIS SYGMA
Photographer: Jacques Langevin
Date Photographed: May 20, 1998
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6449/0000342156006hy2.jpg
ATMOSPHERE IN JAKARTA AFTER SUHARTO'S RESIGNATION
Original caption: The army lets children play on the tanks. (Penguasa sesungguhnya Kota Jakarta : anak-anak)
Image: © LANGEVIN JACQUES/CORBIS SYGMA
Photographer: Jacques Langevin
Date Photographed: May 21, 1998

[makavelli]

Den Bravo 90 Sniper
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f83/Ghost_School/Kopassus/Den%20Bravo%2090/P1000550.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f83/Ghost_School/Kopassus/Den%20Bravo%2090/P1000551.jpg

[darkpole]

A brief about Indonesian-made combat vehicle

There are several institutions that contributed in it, those are :

1. PT. DI (formerly IPTN)
2. PT. Sentra Surya Ekajaya (in cooperation with PT. DI)
3. PT. Pindad
4. Bengpus PAL TNI-AD
5. Marinir


PT. DI and PT Sentra Surya Ekajaya

PT. DI designed P2 KEV to respond requirement of local made Armored Personal Carrier (APC). Few Prototypes were built, but due to limitation of budget at that time it was impossible for PT DI to bring it to mass production.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/P2V1PTDI.gif

Therefore PT DI search for local counterpart which are willing to invest into this program. There was PT Sentra Surya Ekajaya, a company in west java who got interested to bring the prototype into mass production.
The PT. DI P2 KEV was then produced into at least 3 variants, which are :

1. P2 Komando

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/P2-KOMANDO.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/P2-KOMANDO2.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/p2-cougar.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/haritni2005816gj6sy.jpg


2. P2 APC
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/P2-APC.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/sld_apc.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/pindad6x6-interior.jpg


3. P2 APC Police
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/P2-APC2.jpg

Im not sure wether this is P2 APC - Police or one made by PT Skunk Engineering Jakarta
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/unknowAPC.jpg


They're also developing other special purpose vehicle , The P3 Ransus/Cheetah
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/p3-cheetah2.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/rantis1vd.gif

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/p3-cheetah1.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/haritni2005801et.jpg


PT. Pindad

APR (Angkut Personil Ringan) - Light Personel Carrier
During TNI Operation in Aceh, lots of TNI trucks were being ambushed by GAM. TNI asked Pindad to build a new vehicle that could give better protection to soldiers, cheap, easy to maintain and must be delivered into service in shortime after.

They soon came up with APR-1-V1, a 4-wheeled APC based from commercial Isuzu truck. With 4.570cc Diesel engine it produce 3.200 HP, It could carry up to 12 persons and speed up till max 100 kmh.

APR-1-V1
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/APR1-V1.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/APR-1.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/APR-1-2.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/APRVPINDAD.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/big4012005.jpg

Pindad also made further variant of it called APR-2, but unluckily I couldn't find any info about it. I only got two pictures which I assumed to be APR-2, any info about it?

APR-2

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/gbr1610.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/rpp.jpg


APS (Angkut Personel Sedang) - Medium Personel Carrier
Pindad's further development is APS, base of APS is Texmaco 6 wheeled truck.
The vehicle's design was kinda unique since it has 2 sliding door on both side of vehicle along with one on its back. The vehicle was more like to be a military limo rather than a combat vehicle.
There were two variants made, the APS-1-V1 and APS it self. They basically the same, but APS has a single centered driver compartment and 2 sliding doors on it side.
Both variants could carry up to 13 personel, and it equipped with 12.7 caliber, AGL and possible 20 mm's.


APS1-V1

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/p1.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/11520392811rvmi2.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/haritni2005827yw8fn.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/big4012004.jpg


APS

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/APS2.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/APS1.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/APS3.jpg


Prototype Panser 6x6

The new 6x6 panser is still in prototype, Pindad even havent got any name for it.
But surely the vehicle was designed as true panser since its no longer built from any commercial truck. It has monoqoque body with engine compartment linear to passanger cabin, which makes it fully upgradeable into full amphibious vehicle.
The engine is Texmaco 6.595 Turbo Diesel with 260-300 HP. Top speed about 115 kmh and could carry up to 13 fully equipped personels. It also has cupola on its top-side.
Two of the prototypes were broght to parade on TNI anniversary. And It seemed that the army already ordered 100 of them.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/pindad6x6-2.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/pindad6x6-1.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/6x6-front.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/6x6-left.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/pindad6x6-3.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/inside6x6.jpg



Bengpus PAL TNI-AD
It is an internal Maintenance Division of the army. It has developed several vehicle, which are :

1. APC Ahmad Yani

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/APCAhmadYani.jpg

2. Cakra FAV

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/cakra-fav1.png

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/cakra-fav2.jpg

3. Rantis Paksi

I still dont have any detailed information about this vehicle.
I have few pictures which I assumed to be Paksi. I hope anyone could give me further detail about it.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/haritni2005756su5tb.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/rantisinaction6oa.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/kopassuskartika2004f.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/kopassuskartika2004e.jpg


Marinir (Navy Marines)
This division in Indonesian Navy has created The JASGU (Jeep Amphibi Serba Guna) the Multi Purpose Amphibious Jeep. The marines already have three variants of it.

JASGU 1.
- 1800 cc engine
- 4 personels

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/jasgu_awal.jpg


JASGU 2
- 1800 cc petrol (for land use) and 2500 cc diesel (for water use)
- Speed on water 7 knot

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/jasgu3.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/jasgu2.jpg


JASGU 3
- 4300 cc diesel engine
- Land speed 105 kmh
- Speed on water 15 knot
- 13 personels

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/AmphibiLocal.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/jasgu5.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/jasgu12.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/jasgu4.jpg


Raptor and Aligator
They also build Raptor and Aligator, the Armored VIP and Troops Carrier Vehicle

Raptor
- Armoured VIP Carrier Vehicle
- diesel 4 cylinder in line
- 125 PS
- body Armoured Steel 8 mm,
- 7 passanger, 2 crew

Aligator
- Armoured Personel Carrier Vehicle
- diesel 4 cylinder in line
- 125 PS
- body Armoured Steel 8 mm,
- 20 equipped personel, 3 crew
- SMR RPD 12,7 mm.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/raptor-aligator.jpg
* [left] Aligator, [right] Raptor

[calimero2]

Very nice, thanks!

A brief about Indonesian-made combat vehicle

Pindad also made further variant of it called APR-2, but unluckily I couldn't find any info about it. I only got two pictures which I assumed to be APR-2, any info about it?

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/rpp.jpg

[/B] I still dont have any detailed information about this vehicle.
I have few pictures which I assumed to be Paksi. I hope anyone could give me further detail about it.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/haritni2005756su5tb.jpg


I think both images show the same vehicle, the RPP or RPP-1 (Ranpur Pengangkut Personil). The vehicle is based on a LandRover chassis and is powered by a 93hp Isuzu turbocharged diesel engine. There is also a 6x6 variant.

Edit: the vehicles are similar but not the same. The one in 4-colour camo is probably the RPP-1.

[calimero2]

APR-1-V1

Pindad also made further variant of it called APR-2, but unluckily I couldn't find any info about it.

I understand that the APR I-V1 is also called the APR Versi Polri (police?) while the APR II-V2 is the military model (Versi TNI).

[calimero2]

And yet another "Rantis":

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3392/rantisindo02dx5.th.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rantisindo02dx5.jpg)

[darkpole]

Very nice, thanks!



I think both images show the same vehicle, the RPP or RPP-1 (Ranpur Pengangkut Personil). The vehicle is based on a LandRover chassis and is powered by a 93hp Isuzu turbocharged diesel engine. There is also a 6x6 variant.

Edit: the vehicles are similar but not the same. The one in 4-colour camo is probably the RPP-1.

Thanks calimero2,
I've search again and I've found that this APC is one that made by PT. Skunk Engineering Jakarta, It is based on Land Rover and I still havent know its name. hihihi.
Its been the rival for APR-1-V1

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/rpp.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/4x4APConSkunkWorker1.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/4x4APConSkunkWorker2.jpg

[darkpole]

Rantis stands for Kendaraan Taktis or Tactical Vehicle in English,
Indonesia has built several Prototype of rantis, only few of them are brought to production.

One of them is Maesa PT44.
http://www.pacifictec.net
Few pictures of Rantis PT44 made by PT. Pasific Technology I.A.D Indonesia

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/RantisPT44-1.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/RantisPT44-4.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/RantisPT44-5.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/Rantis-PT44-2.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/PT-44-3.jpg

[calimero2]

PT. Pindad
APR (Angkut Personil Ringan) - Light Personel Carrier
APS (Angkut Personel Sedang) - Medium Personel Carrier

This source:

http://www.kuningan.go.id/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=157

also mentions the APK (kendaraan patroli poliisi) or APK2-V1.

[gary1910]

I was told that TNI also uses CIS 50 HMG but I have not seen it, the pix below shown aHMG with double feed of ammo with two ammo rack at the side, seem to be CIS 50 indeed.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/cakra-fav2.jpg

[calimero2]

APS (Angkut Personel Sedang) - Medium Personel Carrier
APS1-V1

I also read somewhere the designator APS2-V1. This might be either the one with the single cabin or maybe the VAB clone ("Panser 6x6").

[darkpole]

I was told that TNI also uses CIS 50 HMG but I have not seen it, the pix below shown aHMG with double feed of ammo with two ammo rack at the side, seem to be CIS 50 indeed.



I guess it is. TNI use several CIS products, The Pindad itself already in agreement with CIS to manufacture the CIS 40-AGL 40 mm Grenade Launcher

[darkpole]

I also read somewhere the designator APS2-V1. This might be either the one with the single cabin or maybe the VAB clone ("Panser 6x6").

I guess it would be possible for the VAB clone (Panser 6x6) to be the APS-2-V1

[darkpole]

During operation in Aceh

Marinir

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/marinir_amphibious1.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/marinir_aceh_siaga1.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/marinir_aceh_serbu3.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/marinir_aceh_serbu2.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/marinir_aceh_serbu1.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/marinir_aceh_patroli1.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/marinir_aceh_duka1.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/marinir_aceh_combat1.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/marinir_aceh_boat1.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/marinir_aceh_bireuen1.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/marinir_aceh_baris1.jpg


Kostrad

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/kostrad_aceh_patroli1.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/kostrad_aceh_korban1.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/kostrad_aceh_elder1.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/kostrad_aceh_children1.jpg


Kopassus

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/darkpole/kopassus_aceh_patroli1.jpg

[gary1910]

I guess it is. TNI use several CIS products, The Pindad itself already in agreement with CIS to manufacture the CIS 40-AGL 40 mm Grenade Launcher

Tks.

I also read a couple of reports that TNI is also interested in licensed produced of our Terrex AV-81 8x8 wheeled AFV, do you have update on it???

[Silent_Hunter]

http://www.detik.com/images/content/2006/12/11/157/AARM1.jpg http://www.detik.com/images/content/2006/12/11/157/AARM2.jpg http://www.detik.com/images/content/2006/12/11/157/AARM3.jpg

Presiden Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono memegang senapan SS-1 dan SS-2 disaksikan Panglima TNI Marsekal Djoko Suyanto seusai menerima atlet TNI AD yang merebut juara pertama lomba menembak se-ASEAN di Istana Negara, Jakarta. Presiden SBY juga menyematkan Satya Lencana Pembangunan serta pemberian piagam tanda kehormatan kepada Direktur Utama PT. Pindad, Budi Santoso.(Foto-Abror)

[equilibrium37]

Umm .. isnt that an M16-A2 rifle, not an SS1 rifle .. btw salam kenal all

[pabloding179]

awesome.
sb in hz
:D

[equilibrium37]

got nemore pics of the SS2?

[Silent_Hunter]

http://www.kupload.com/images.php/i2816_trainerjetnova.jpg

Nova Project, Indonesian indigenous advanced jet trainer


http://www.kaskus.us/showthread.php?t=442373

angkasareaders@yahoogroups.com

[Dark Avenger]

Is that a gunport on the lower part of the nose, or just a small intake scoop?

[Kopassus]

Wo...ini proyek baru atau proyek tua yg sudah di batalkan?
I have a question: I have never see a prove, a picture or a berita that Disnerbal have received Mi-17s. Does anyone has pictures of Indonesian Mi-17 s?

[Kopassus]

Oya, maaf, sy baru baca skrg berita dari Tempo

[Switek]

Kopassus, this is English language forum, no offense just remark :)

take a look: Forum Rules (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1554)

[equilibrium37]

ouchh .. lol kidding .. but yea .. ive never heard of this jet trainer .. any info boutt it ?? thanks

[Silent_Hunter]

Paspampres

http://www.kompas.co.id/koleksifoto/0701//big7010403.jpg http://www.kompas.co.id/koleksifoto/0701//big7010404.jpg http://www.kompas.co.id/koleksifoto/0701//big7010405.jpg

[Silent_Hunter]

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/846/20061110t105737z01jak06rtridsp2indonesiaaustraliahi3.jpg

REUTERS/Stringer/indonesia
A newly recruited soldier from ethnic Papua holds his rifle as he walks during a morning exercise in Sentani, in the Papua province of Indonesia, November 10, 2006. A security pact between Australia and Indonesia should cement closer ties and help the two neighbours deal with niggling rifts over issues such as Papua separatism, Indonesia's foreign minister said on Friday.

Indonesian Soldier with M14 Battle Rifle

[makavelli]

airwolf..:D

http://www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRtypen/Fotos/bell/430Whee.JPG
http://avia.russian.ee/foto/bell_222-430_2.jpg

[teutateswolf-n]

Hi, I m new here. It s a very interesting site.

In fact, I would like to ask you a question. Do you have any information about details of Indonesian uniforms, especially the army?

For example, what are the colors of berets? The badges? The insignia of colours for the branches of service?

Thanks

[makavelli]

im not expert but ill try...
their uniform consist of colour from "murbei" tree.. colour that the most similar with the indonesian jungle..
they are produced in some cities such as Garut, Semarang, etc...
DPR or the parliamant rejected the digital camo because of the price and some other reason in early November. but some use it such as Kopassus, Marine, etc in special occasion.

ill leave the rest to the expert...

[Switek]

Hi, I m new here. It s a very interesting site.

In fact, I would like to ask you a question. Do you have any information about details of Indonesian uniforms, especially the army?

For example, what are the colors of berets? The badges? The insignia of colours for the branches of service?

Thanks


Looks that camo and design is based on British DPM

[aridharma]

Looks that camo and design is based on British DPM

As long as I Know, TNI is the one who has most colorfull baret:
Red - Kopasus (special Forces)
Green - Kostrad (Rapid Reaction Forces / Airborne )
Orange - Paskhas (Air Force Special Operation Forces)
Violet - Marines
Blue - Military Police
Khaki - Artilery
Black - Cavalry

Standard Military camo is based on DPM except for the new 10 Ranger Battalions whom has localize ACUPAT, although almost every units has unofficial camo patterns.

[Auzzzie]

Oya, maaf, sy baru baca skrg berita dari Tempo
Anda harus menulis dengan Bahasa Inggris di MP.net.

And I'm fairly sure that that was not inappropriate.p-)

[LRPV]

Nice one Auzzzie :p

[Auzzzie]

Nice one Auzzzie :p
Cheers mate. 6 years of studying the damn language finally paid off.p-)

[teutateswolf-n]

Switek, Makavelli, Aridharma, thanks for your information.

Yes, it's maybe the most colorful berets in the Asian armies.
If you agree, i would like to ask you a few more questions.

(1) except the berets, how the TNI does the distinction in its dress for the different branches of services? Metallic badges? Facing colours on the collar? Maybe some Dutch influences?!
(2) What about the Indonesian cavalry? is it simply called "cavalry"? Or are they different types of cavalry like in the European armies? What are the traditions of the Indonesian cavalry? And is it a famous branch in Indonesia?

Thanks for your time

[Silent_Hunter]

Kopassus

http://222.124.12.210/gallery/DSC_0085.jpg

http://222.124.12.210/gallery/DSC_0072.jpg

[Silent_Hunter]

http://www.tniad.mil.id/

[Silent_Hunter]

Tontaipur

http://222.124.12.210/gallery/DSC_0297.jpg http://222.124.12.210/gallery/DSC_0278.jpg

[Silent_Hunter]

Sniper

http://222.124.12.210/gallery/DSC_0107.jpg

[Silent_Hunter]

Raider

http://222.124.12.210/gallery/DSC_0066.jpg

[Silent_Hunter]

Sniper Parade

http://222.124.12.210/gallery/DSC_0062.jpg

[equilibrium37]

nice pics. any news about the air force purchasing the next batch of sukhois?

[arkley]

Cheers mate. 6 years of studying the damn language finally paid off.p-)

Good for you mate ..
but its not a difficult language to learn ..
basically it is a language without a grammar.
Learning the people is a lot more difficult.
But I'll give you the credit for it... you've done well.

Here is a picture of Dutch holiday maker in Java who have adopted Indonesian/Javanese words into English, such as the word Amok come from Javanese word Amuk and Boogey Man actually derived from the words Orang Bugis who gave the Dutch a lot of sleepless nights in the Celebes (Sulawesi).

:)

[Auzzzie]

Good for you mate ..
but its not a difficult language to learn ..
basically it is a language without a grammar.
Learning the people is a lot more difficult.
But I'll give you the credit for it... you've done well.

Here is a picture of Dutch holiday maker in Java who have adopted Indonesian/Javanese words into English, such as the word Amok come from Javanese word Amuk and Boogey Man actually derived from the words Orang Bugis who gave the Dutch a lot of sleepless nights in the Celebes (Sulawesi).

:)

Yeah, and orangutan comes from orang hutan (forest person). :p

[Kopassus]

Nice pictures Silent! Makasih! Is the sniper a L96? Doesnt the Raiders use a different uniform( Daun Murbai camouflage)?

[Kopassus]

As long as I Know, TNI is the one who has most colorfull baret:
Red - Kopasus (special Forces)
Green - Kostrad (Rapid Reaction Forces / Airborne )
Orange - Paskhas (Air Force Special Operation Forces)
Violet - Marines
Blue - Military Police
Khaki - Artilery
Black - Cavalry

Standard Military camo is based on DPM except for the new 10 Ranger Battalions whom has localize ACUPAT, although almost every units has unofficial camo patterns.
Kopassus also uses often an other patern, with more red

[Kopassus]

For the coming years we have a budget of $3,7 Milyar for buying alutsista.
If you are the one that decide what wil be bought, what will you put on the orderlist?
This is my list:

TNI-AL
-2 x Amur 1450
-2 x Project 636
-Upgrade the SIGMA/Diponegoro-class with a better SAM(Seawolf) or CIWS (Goalkeeper)
Disnerbal
-8 x Super Lynx 300
-6 x CN235-220MPA
-Replace the 2 DHC-5 with N250-100

TNI-AD
-Replace all the Ferrets and Saracens with Panhard VBL and indigeneous armoured vehicles
Penerbad
-8 x Mi-17 and 3 x Mi-35P for Kopassus
-Replace the 3 DHC-5 with N250-100

TNI-AU
-6 x Su-30KI and 2 x Su-30MK for SkU11
-Upgrade our Su-27SKs to 30KI
-Replace the 7 F-27 with N250-100
-Some Jernas,2S6M Tunguska and Pantsir S1

I hope the $3,7 will be enough for this list.... :P

[halo-id]

For the coming years we have a budget of $3,7 Milyar for buying alutsista.

milyar = billions btw =P

just to clarify

[halo-id]

TNI's Promotional Video in English
http://www.youtube.com/v/WDGDFCfjQ0Y

made in 2004 I think...

The Indonesian version and other videos can be found here:
http://www.tni.mil.id/gallery.php?q=dtl&cid=2

[Silent_Hunter]

MBDA SIGNS INDUSTRIAL ACCORD WITH PT. PINDAD OF INDONESIA
11/30/2006

PindadMoU.doc



author : Eka Meiryawan
International missile systems company MBDA and Indonesia’s PT Pindad have signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) under which the two companies will form an industrial partnership to market vehicle-mounted missile systems.

The two companies signed the MoU in the presence of the Indonesian State-Owned Enterprises Minister, Mr. Sugiharto, at an official signing ceremony held during the IndoDefence 2006 exhibition in Jakarta on the 23rd November 2006. State-owned PT. Pindad is Indonesia’s primary manufacturer of military equipment, industrial tools and machinery.

Under the MoU, MBDA and PT. Pindad will evaluate the integration of MBDA’s latest generation Mistral Atlas short-range air defence system on Pindad's Light Military Vehicle to fulfil the Indonesian Army’s requirement for a mobile, quick-reaction, vehicle-mounted missile system for protection against fast and highly manoeuvrable aerial targets. The MoU will pave the way for an industrial partnership under which PT. Pindad will also be able to expand into export markets as a supplier of vehicles for MBDA’s portfolio of vehicle-mounted missile systems.

Parminder Janjua, MBDA’s Regional Director, said: “MBDA is honoured to have this opportunity to join forces with PT. Pindad to ensure that Indonesia has the most advanced air defence capability for its army and potentially for other export countries. This partnership will provide Indonesia with the indigenous capability it needs for the through-life support of its in-service equipment as well as play a key role in the future development of this new vehicle-mounted air defence system”.

PT. Pindad’s CEO, said “We are delighted and proud to cooperate with MBDA, a company which has a vast capability and experience in missile systems. Hopefully, this cooperation will enrich the light military vehicle being produced by Pindad to support the Indonesian Armed Forces and for export as well. Furthermore, through this cooperation with MBDA, Indonesia and especially Pindad, can achieve the technology transfer providing the capability to improve tactical military vehicles designed to carry missiles for the next generation”.

Pindad’s vehicle is a four-wheeled light military vehicle with a gross weight of less than four tonnes, measuring 4.5 meters in length, 1.6 meters in width, and 1.8 meters in height. It is powered by a four cylinder diesel engine and equipped with power steering.

MBDA’s Mistral ATLAS has been designed to offer mobility, flexibility, high fire-power and autonomy to Mistral Air Defence units. Atlas is a twin-launcher, fitted with two ready-to-fire missiles and can be installed on a wide range of vehicles. It takes less than five seconds to make the system operational and two missiles can be fired in less than five seconds. Both launchers are fitted with a 4th generation IR thermal sight which allows for detection of aerial targets at ranges in excess of 10km.

Atlas fires the Mistral 2 short-range (up to 6.5 km) surface-to-air missile capable of intercepting a wide variety of aerial targets including those with even a low infrared signature. It is characterised by an outstanding success rate (93% from more than 2500 live firings), a high effectiveness against manoeuvring targets, and has demonstrated its capabilities against fixed-wing aircraft, nap-of-the-earth helicopters, unmanned aerial vehicles, cruise missiles as well as moving land vehicles and FIAC at sea.

Mistral has already been in service for more than ten years with the Indonesian Navy and has been recently confirmed as key weapon system for the new corvette programme. MISTRAL has either been selected or is already in service with the armed forces of 26 countries.

Notes to editors

With an annual turnover exceeding €3,5 billion, a forward order book of over €14 billion and over 70 customers worldwide, MBDA is a world leading, global missile systems company. MBDA currently has 45 missile system and countermeasure programmes in operational service and has proven its ability as prime contractor to head major multi-national projects. MBDA is jointly owned by BAE SYSTEMS (37.5%), EADS (37.5%) and FINMECCANICA (25%).


Press contact and details:

Mr Eka Meiryawan – (62-21) 5735975

[Silent_Hunter]

Pindad APR-1 with Mistral Missile

http://uploadgue.com/tmp/1801_3548RantisAPC-MistralAlbi1.gifhttp://uploadgue.com/tmp/1801_3508RantisAPC-MistralAtlas1.gifhttp://uploadgue.com/tmp/1801_3530RantisAPC-MistralAtlas2.gif

[Silent_Hunter]

Pindad APS-1 with Mistral ATlas

http://uploadgue.com/tmp/1801_3650panser6x6-MistralAlbi.gif http://uploadgue.com/tmp/1801_3609panser6x6-MistralAtlas1.gif http://uploadgue.com/tmp/1801_3628panser6x6-MistralAtlas2.gif

[equilibrium37]

For the coming years we have a budget of $3,7 Milyar for buying alutsista.
If you are the one that decide what wil be bought, what will you put on the orderlist?
This is my list:

TNI-AL
-2 x Amur 1450
-2 x Project 636
-Upgrade the SIGMA/Diponegoro-class with a better SAM(Seawolf) or CIWS (Goalkeeper)
Disnerbal
-8 x Super Lynx 300
-6 x CN235-220MPA
-Replace the 2 DHC-5 with N250-100

TNI-AD
-Replace all the Ferrets and Saracens with Panhard VBL and indigeneous armoured vehicles
Penerbad
-8 x Mi-17 and 3 x Mi-35P for Kopassus
-Replace the 3 DHC-5 with N250-100

TNI-AU
-6 x Su-30KI and 2 x Su-30MK for SkU11
-Upgrade our Su-27SKs to 30KI
-Replace the 7 F-27 with N250-100
-Some Jernas,2S6M Tunguska and Pantsir S1

I hope the $3,7 will be enough for this list.... :P


why replacing the Panhard VBL ? N250 - 100 ??? I thought PT DI is not able to produce them ?

[Kopassus]

No, replacing the Ferrets and Saracens with the Panhard VBL and P2 Komando.
IPTN is able to make the N250. The first and second prototype have flown, but the program is on hold. With a $3,7 milyar budget we can use a litlle part of it into this program.

[equilibrium37]

No, replacing the Ferrets and Saracens with the Panhard VBL and P2 Komando.
IPTN is able to make the N250. The first and second prototype have flown, but the program is on hold. With a $3,7 milyar budget we can use a litlle part of it into this program.

Oh oops .. thanks .. didnt see the "with"

Seriously, can anyone post some full specs and pics of the SS2 rifle. ?

[makavelli]

The LPD hull number 990 was launched 12/7 of 2006, and the keel for the 2nd hull was laid on the same day.

These dock landing ships have full displacement of 11,394ton, and is a follow up design to the LR-972 KRI hospital ship (LPD).

Specifications are as follows:

Standard displacement : 7,800ton
Full displacement : 11,394ton
Dimensions : 122m x 22m x 6.7m(Length/Width/Draft)
Crew : 700
Propulsion : CODAD (Combined Diesel and Diesel) - 2 shafts
STX-MAN B&W 8L28/32A diesel engine X 2
Speed : Maximum 15.72kt

The deal for these ships were signed on the December of 2004, with 3 LPDs and 1 command ship part of the deal. 2 will be build on Daesun yard in Busan, while 2 will be built by PT. PAL yard in Indonesia under technical assistance.

http://imagespark.us/out.php/i425_45a42d262e651.gif
http://imagespark.us/out.php/i424_45a42d6c445d8.gif
http://imagespark.us/out.php/i423_45a42ceac5c2b.gif

[makavelli]

Navy Exercise

OV-10 Bronco in action
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3993/748317983no.jpg


Mi-35 Hind in action
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9084/917944799mu.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/4517/239130908ec.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/3530/525249490yi.jpg


NBO-105 in action
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2604/369268105en.jpg
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/5775/948066960as.jpg


NBELL-412 in action
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/4783/609036270fi.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5682/806868425ho.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3416/602269236cu.jpg
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5408/106fp.jpg

Combined Arms Maneuvers
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/2627/115oz.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8538/129fh.jpg

[makavelli]

part 2

ss2 rifles
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8499/133ce.jpg


the "old" AMX
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7011/145ek.jpg
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4199/151sx.jpg
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3295/169hh.jpg


PBI (Poor Bloody Infantry) :D
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5071/176li.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2907/189np.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2038/195le.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2919/208zi.jpg


NUBIKA war simulation
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5755/211wr.jpg

More Infantry
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6852/228km.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3152/239iw.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5419/243yx.jpg

[makavelli]

more misc pictures
credit goes to quattro and TNI AL forum

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5829/259ml.jpg
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1729/262sb.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9691/278ef.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/705/283ms.jpg
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/1926/299ts.jpg
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5479/306sj.jpg
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/1759/316ug.jpg
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/9828/320tm.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/500/338nf.jpg

[Ghelp]

TNI is great.Does TNI have Astros-II.

[makavelli]

Combat Arms Manouver
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/532/341ac.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1851/371cp.jpg

President of Indonesia
(mr SBY is an ex Brigif 17 para Kujang Commandant whom pictured in this exercise. thats why the president used green beret)

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8386/352hh.jpg
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/908/364ck.jpg

[teutateswolf-n]

Hi,

It's a very nice thread.
Thanks for all the pics and information.
Do you have any pics of the army's branches facing colours or badges?
And pics of Service Dress and ceremonial dress?

[Kopassus]

Thanks Makavelli for the beautiful pictures!

[Kopassus]

http://modulo6.rendered.hyves.org/44200001-44250000/44220801-44220900/44220818_5_KuOO.jpeg

Does anyone knows what type of AAG this is?

[Ronguild]

http://modulo6.rendered.hyves.org/44200001-44250000/44220801-44220900/44220818_5_KuOO.jpeg

Does anyone knows what type of AAG this is?

Itis a Yugoslav made triple 20mm AAG called M-55B3.
A B4 version exists with an italian GALILEO P56 sight.

[Kopassus]

Thanks Ronguild!

[Dark Avenger]

Itis a Yugoslav made triple 20mm AAG called M-55B3.

Which in turn is a licensed Hispano-Suiza HS-804.

[flanker7]

Itis a Yugoslav made triple 20mm AAG called M-55B3.
A B4 version exists with an italian GALILEO P56 sight.
We have some of them! Simple gun and effective, mostly against ground targets nowadays

[Dark Avenger]

But woe betide the helicopter that is unlucky enough to find itself sitting square in the sights of the M55.

[flanker7]

Yes, compined the 3 guns together have a large rate of fire which shaturates the target area. Very impressive during night fire

[Dark Avenger]

A long time ago I found this (small unfortunately) pic of an Indonesian M55B3 on a Mercedes truck.
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5082/mercedeswithtriple20mma7uf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[makavelli]

Kartika Revolution Day December 2006


contains reenactment of independece struggle
black and chocolate dress is a typical farmer clothing and symbol of javanese clothing.
light green shirt and pants are uniform of "hansip and Satpam"
hansip = pertahanan sipil (civilian defense corps)
satpam = satuan pengaman (normal security officer)

both they joined the army to fight colonialist for independence.
bambu runcing is the weapons that they used because lack of firearm that day. bambu runcing is a sharpened bamboo.

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6907/210763950vm.jpg
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2841/723965415qd.jpg
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3326/241112661us.jpg
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4443/583755098if.jpg
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9004/142842093rt.jpg
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5814/440852847ep.jpg
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8029/718851644zg.jpg
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4079/122328895kj.jpg
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6014/690893381sf.jpg
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7684/102bh.jpg
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2756/110cs.jpg
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9593/123nj.jpg

[kakitsubata]

The LPD hull number 990 was launched 12/7 of 2006, and the keel for the 2nd hull was laid on the same day.

These dock landing ships have full displacement of 11,394ton, and is a follow up design to the LR-972 KRI hospital ship (LPD).

Specifications are as follows:

Standard displacement : 7,800ton
Full displacement : 11,394ton
Dimensions : 122m x 22m x 6.7m(Length/Width/Draft)
Crew : 700
Propulsion : CODAD (Combined Diesel and Diesel) - 2 shafts
STX-MAN B&W 8L28/32A diesel engine X 2
Speed : Maximum 15.72kt

The deal for these ships were signed on the December of 2004, with 3 LPDs and 1 command ship part of the deal. 2 will be build on Daesun yard in Busan, while 2 will be built by PT. PAL yard in Indonesia under technical assistance.


Could you have at least left the copyright statement for the photos?

[makavelli]

thats the description i got..

anyway,more pic..
this is detachment 88 (info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detasemen_Khusus_88) during raid in noordin.m. top (malaysian terorist) in his safehouse Binangun, Wonosobo, Central Java. Abdul Hadi and Jabir were killed
credit goes to alfaalfa and kaskus.us

http://imagespark.us/images.php/i2468_c1a7491d.jpg
http://imagespark.us/images.php/i2467_bf94ad2a.jpg
http://imagespark.us/images.php/i2466_b483a007.jpg
http://imagespark.us/images.php/i2465_afdd4754.jpg
http://imagespark.us/images.php/i2464_507707c9.jpg
http://imagespark.us/images.php/i2463_7545d285.jpg
http://imagespark.us/images.php/i2462_196bb474.jpg
http://imagespark.us/images.php/i2461_31b5f0a8.jpg
http://imagespark.us/images.php/i2460_8ab260ac.jpg
http://imagespark.us/images.php/i2459_0befdd05.jpg
http://imagespark.us/images.php/i2458_0a0551ea.jpg


info about noordin m top
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noordin_Mohammad_Top

[equilibrium37]

great pictures .. thanks

[Silent_Hunter]

Kopaska New Weapon

PERALATAN YANG DIMILIKI KOPASKA

http://morovision.binoculars.com/images/morovision_MV221G.jpg
NVG221

http://rifle-scopes.binoculars.com/images/aimpoint-compm3_px300.jpg
AimPoint Rifle Scope

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/ai_sm.jpg
AI Arctic Warfare Super Magnum


Accuracy International AS50 sniper rifle


Barrett M95 rifle

http://world.guns.ru/machine/fn_minimi_m249.jpg
FN M249 SAW

http://world.guns.ru/machine/fn_minimi_para.jpg
FN Minimi Para

http://world.guns.ru/smg/hk_ump45.jpg
HK UMP-45

http://world.guns.ru/smg/hk_mp5ka4.jpg
HK MP-5KA4

http://world.guns.ru/assault/aks74u.jpg
AKS-74U


M4A1 carbine

http://world.guns.ru/assault/famas_g2.jpg
FAMAS G2

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/rem870mcs_14.jpg
Remington 870MCS

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/rem870mcs_10.jpg
Remington 870MCSB "Breeching weapon"

http://world.guns.ru/grenade/rpg-29.jpg
RPG-29 antitank grenade launcher


SMAW Rocket launcher

============================
PERLENGKAPAN TERBARU YANG DIMILIKI KOPASKA

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/opticsplanet_1934_24982686
Elcan Specter IR Imaging

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/opticsplanet_1932_13005526
ITT Night Quest PVS-14 Gen 3 Night Vision Scope

[equilibrium37]

where did u get this information from ?

[Silent_Hunter]

where did u get this information from ?

http://forum.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?tid=179745&extra=page%3D1&page=22

[equilibrium37]

ahh .. thanks alot .. btw .. do u have any information about the Indonesian Air Force purchasing Sukhoi fighters?

[KingoftheHill]

ahh .. thanks alot .. btw .. do u have any information about the Indonesian Air Force purchasing Sukhoi fighters?

Weren't they looking to get something like 4 total rofl

Political tool? p-)

[equilibrium37]

iunno .. all i know they allready have 4 .. and i also read from an indonesian news web that theyr planning to buy a few more.

[Silent_Hunter]

Kopassus New Weapon

PERLENGKAPAN KOPASSUS

http://www.bulletproofme.com/new%20download%20images/MICH-Helmet.JPG
Helmet

http://www.bulletproofme.com/new%20download%20images/Military-Tactical-Vest.jpg
Body Armor

http://world.guns.ru/smg/hk_mp5ka4.jpg
HK MP-5KA4
HK UMP-40 with optional equipment: red-dot sight, tactical frontgrip and flashlight


Mini UZI

http://night-vision.binoculars.com/images/Night_Owl_Explorer_Pro_5x%2814760%29_1_copy.jpg
Night Owl Explorer Pro 5x Binocular

http://world.guns.ru/machine/fn_minimi_para.jpg
FN Minimi Para

http://world.guns.ru/machine/fn_minimi_spw.jpg
FN Minimi SPW

http://world.guns.ru/assault/akm.jpg
Automat Kalashnikova Modernized - AKM assault rifle

http://world.guns.ru/assault/akm_gp25.jpg
AKM with GP-25 40mm underbarrel grenade launcher

http://world.guns.ru/assault/sig550.jpg
SIG 550 / Stgw.90 with optional scope and cheekpad

http://world.guns.ru/assault/aug_a3-2.jpg
Steyr AUG A3 Carbine with 16inch barrel and special 40mm grenade launcher; grenade launcher sight and removable telescopic rifle sight

http://world.guns.ru/assault/hk_g36k.jpg
G36K - carbine version with standard dual scope mount and the buttstock folded

http://world.guns.ru/assault/hk_g36c.jpg
G36C - Compact or Commando version with open (iron) sights installed on the Picatinny rail

http://world.guns.ru/assault/tavor-2.jpg
Tavor-2

http://world.guns.ru/assault/tavor-mtar.jpg
Tavor-MTAR

==========================================
PERLENGKAPAN TERBARU YANG DIMILIKI KOPASSUS

http://world.guns.ru/assault/m4a1an-pws4.jpg
Perlengkapan terbaru Kopassus, M4A1 carbine with RIS-mounted forward handgrip and the AN-PVS4 night vision sight

http://www.defense-update.com/images/scar-l.jpg
http://morovision.binoculars.com/images/morovision_MV740gen3.jpg
Perlengkapan Terbaru Kopassus , SCAR-L Riffle dan MVV-740 Generation 3 Night Vision Weapon Sight

http://morovision.binoculars.com/images/morovision_PVS7.jpg
Perlengkapan Terbaru Kopassus, MV-PVS-7 Ultra Generation 3 Night Vision Goggle


http://www.defense-update.com/images/srats.jpg
Kendaraan Terbaru Kopassus ,SRATS-Stealth Reconnaissance/Assault Transport System yang digunakan oleh kopassus dan Denjaka

[equilibrium37]

thats a FN SCAR, not M4A1 ...

[OMEGA7]

What is this Weapon be Tested in Picture

G36C or SIG SG552 ????

they wore the clothes which has quite peculier aspects .

[equilibrium37]

... guess noone wants to answer my question .. great thread

[makavelli]

in lebanon
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c360/andezh/p1035488gx4.jpg

@equilibrium, about sukhoi..theres no assurance..
ive heard they targeted around 2 skuadron...
but so far 10 ordered and 4 delivered already

[KingoftheHill]

I think TNI has 12 Su-27/30s

[equilibrium37]

yee heard they only had 4 delivered .. but never knew they ordered 10 more. Theres a word that the existing 4 until today still dont have any combat capabilities (no weaponss)

[makavelli]

it should be arrived by now
Government Prepares to Purchase Missiles for Sukhoi Fighters
Friday, 16 December, 2005 | 09:17 WIB

TEMPO Interactive, Jakarta:The Indonesian department of defense is currently processing the purchase of weapons for four Sukhoi fighter planes made by Russia.

These planes, owned by the Air Force, are not yet in service.

Rear Admiral Yuwendi, director general for defense planning at the department of defense, said on Wednesday (14/12) that the weapons to be purchased from Russia included cruise missiles, medium-range missiles and short-range missiles.

“We hope that by the middle of 2006, these weapons for the Sukhoi planes will all have arrived,” stated Yuwendi.

He admitted that he did not remember the price of these weapons.

However, for this recent purchase the department of defense disbursed some Rp28.8 billion for part of the weapons system.

“The point is that by the middle of next year, our Sukhoi fighters will be real fighter planes,” said Yuwendi.

He also said separately that the department of defense, the Indonesian Military (TNI) headquarters (HQ) and the Indonesian Air Force (TNI) Navy had reviewed the plan to purchase the equipment.

This took place following the United States’ lifting of its military embargo against Indonesia.

The Indonesian Army and the Indonesian Navy also have proposals to purchase equipment from the USA.

The Army has proposed the purchase of spare parts and weapons for tanks and armored vehicles that could not be operated because of the embargo.

The Navy has proposed the purchase of Harpoon missiles for its attack ships.
(Dimas Adityo-Tempo News Room)
http://www.tempointeraktif.com/hg/nasional/2005/12/16/brk,20051216-70714,uk.html

Indonesia Strikes $1B Russian Weapons Deal
Posted 11/17/06 15:22

Indonesia has agreed to buy weaponry worth $1 billion from Russia over the next five years to beef up its military capability, Defense Minister Juwono Sudarsono said Nov. 17.
The five-year plan was approved by President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono at a cabinet meeting Nov. 16 and will take effect from 2007, Sudarsono said.
“We have agreed that the main weaponry system from Russia is needed, especially strike force” equipment for Indonesia’s Army, Navy and Air Force, he told reporters.
Payments for the deal would be strictly government-to-government, Sudarsono said. He cautioned that his department would monitor for possible cost “inflation” by Russian officials.
The plan includes the purchase of eight Sukhoi jets, two submarines and up to four assault helicopters, Sudarsono said.
The purchase would be in line with government efforts to build a squadron of Sukhoi jets, raising the total number in Indonesia to 10. A normal Indonesian Air Force squadron would contain 12 planes.
Indonesia was forced to look for new arms suppliers after the United States imposed restrictions on military sales and cooperation over concerns about rights abuses committed by the Indonesian armed forces in East Timor in 1991.
The United States, eager for Indonesia’s assistance in fighting terrorism, lifted arms restrictions and resumed full military ties in November 2004.

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=2366433&C=navwar



(http://www.tempointeraktif.com/hg/nasional/2005/12/16/brk,20051216-70714,uk.html)

[Dark Avenger]

in lebanon
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c360/andezh/p1035488gx4.jpg

This VBL has the SGDs mounted at the rear and a unique armament configuration, namely the post-mounted weapon, which, judging from the ammo box is a 40mm CIS-40 AGL.

[teutateswolf-n]

Hi, everybody. Does someone know the reply to these questions?
How to identify the uniform of an Indonesian cavalryman?
What are the traditions of the Indonesian cavalry?

[Kopassus]

... guess noone wants to answer my question .. great thread
Berita ini dari Kompas:

Pertahanan
Skuadron Sukhoi Akan Digenapi 2008


Laporan Wartawan Kompas Wisnu Nugroho A



MOSKWA, KOMPAS--Penandatanganan nota kesepahaman antara Rusia dan Indonesia di bidang pertahanan dan kerja sama teknik militer menyebut fasilitas pendanaan state credit sebesar satu miliar dollar Amerika Serikat. Fasilitas pendanaan akan digunakan dalam kurun waktu 2006-2010 untuk membangun kekuatan esensial minimal Tentara NasionaI Indonesia.

Dengan fasilitas pendanaan itu, masing-masing dari ketiga angkatan TNI yaitu darat, laut, dan udara akan memenuhi kebutuhan esensial minimalnya. Untuk TNI-AU, dengan fasilitas pendanaan itu, pada tahun 2008 diharapkan sudah memiliki satu skuadron Sukhoi lengkap dengan persenjataannya. Saat ini Indonesia baru memiliki empat Sukhoi tanpa persenjataan.

"Harapan kita, pada tahun 2008, satu skuadron sukhoi berikut persenjataannya terpenuhi," ujar Sekretaris Jenderal Departeman Pertahanan Letnan Jenderal Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin di dalam pesawat dalam perjalanan kembali ke tanah air dari Rusia, Sabtu (2/12).

Sjafrie mewakili Indonesia menandatangani nota kesepahaman yang akan menjadi payung kerja sama dan persetujuan Rusia dan Indonesia. Sjafrie turut serta dalam pertemuan bilateral Indonesia dan Rusia yang dipimpin Presiden Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono dan Presiden Federasi Rusia Vldimir Putin.

TNI-AD sampai tahun 2010 akan membeli beberapa helikopter serbu untuk operasi. Sementara TNI-AL akan membeli kapal selam dan tank amphibi untuk marinir. (Lihat Tabel)

Fasilitas pendanaan state credit merupakan formula baru pendanaan setelah Rusia 15 tahun menjadi federasi. Tawaran pendanaan ini diterima Indonesia karena efisien dan tidak ada management fee untuk tiap pembelian yang dilakukan.

"Secara keseluruhan pendanaan dari Rusia satu mliar dollar AS. Tetapi daftar belanjaan TNI membutuhkan biaya tambahan menjadi sekitar 1,3 miliar dollar AS. Dephan akan bicarakan hal itu dengan Departeman Keuangan dan Badan Perencanaan Pembangunan Nasional," ujarnya.

Meskipun demikian, pembelian peralatan TNI tidak akan serta merta dialokasikan tahun 2006-2010. "Kita memegang prinsip berdasarkan kemampuan anggaran negara. Karena itu Depan akan berkonsultasi dengan Depkeu dan Bappenas sebelum dibawa ke DPR," ujarnya.

Selain pembelanjaan, dalam nota kesepahaman disebutkan kerja sama untuk peningkatan profesionalisme prajurit kedua negara. Untuk itu akan ada program tukar menukar prajurit untuk pendidikan dan pelatihan.

Sjafrie juga menandatangani nota kesepahaman tentang hak atas kekayaan intelektual teknik militer. Dengan nota kesepahaman ini, akan ada transfer teknologi dan kerja sama produksi namun dengan rambu-rambu pengaman terkait informasi dan substansi teknik militer itu.

Alokasi Anggaran Dephan 2006-2010

TNI-AD
Mi-17 (Helikopter Transpor) 10 unit
Peralatan Tambahan untuk Mi-17-V5 1 paket
Mi-35 Tempur 5 unit
Sukucadang Mi-35 P 1 paket
Amunisi dan perlengkapan Mi-35 Tempur 1 paket

TNI-AL
Kapal Selam Kilo 636 2 unit
BMP-3F (Tank amphibi) 20 unit
Persenjataan Yakhonk 2 shipset

TNI-AU
SU-27 SKM (Sukhoi Tempur) 3 unit
SU-30MK2 (Sukhoi Tempur) 3 unit
Amunisi Sukhoi 4 paket
Sukucadang Sukhoi 4 paket



Berita ini dari Antara

PEMBELIAN ENAM SUKHOI SELESAI 2008


Moskow, Sekjen Departemen Pertahanan Sjafrie Sjamsoeddien mengatakan pembelian enam pesawat Sukhoi dari Rusia dengan dana dari kredit ekspor pemerintah Rusia diharapkan selesai pada 2008.

"Saat ini Sukhoi kita baru empat. Diharapkan dengan tambahan lagi, pada 2008 kita punya satu skuadron berikut persenjataan penuh," kata Sjafrie di pesawat kepresidenan saat kembali ke tanah air Sabtu malam.

Pembelian pesawat Sukhoi dan sejumlah senjata lain dengan kredit ekspor pemerintah Rusia senilai 1 miliar dolar AS, ditandatangani Sjafrie mewakili Pemerintah RI usai pertemuan Presiden Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono dan Presiden Federasi Rusia Vladimir Putin di Istana Kremlin Moskow, Jumat malam.

Selain Sukhoi, alat utama sistem senjata (alutsista) yang juga dibeli dengan kredit ekspor itu antara lain 10 helikopter angkut MI17 U-5, dan lima helikopter serbu MI-35-P serta satu paket perlengkapan dan amunisinya untuk TNI AD.

Dua unit kapal selam kelas kilo, 20 unit tank amphibi BMP-3F dan dua paket rudal anti kapal untuk TNI AL, serta tiga unit Sukhoi SU-27 SKM, tiga unit Sukhoi SU-30 MK 2 dan empat paket senjata dan suku cadang untuk TNI AU.

Selain kesepakatan pembelian senjata, Sjafrie juga menandatangani kerja sama dalam menghormati hak cipta dalam bidang pertahanan, yang merupakan rambu pengaman untuk bidang informasi dan substansi teknik militer.

Dijelaskan Sjafrie, meski pemerintah Rusia telah memberikan kredit sebesar 1 miliar dolar AS, jumlah itu belum mencukupi kebutuhan minimal perlengkapan TNI antara 2006 - 2010 yang mencapai 1,3 miliar dolar AS.

"Untuk sisanya kami masih mengusahakannya dengan Bappenas dan Depkeu," katanya.

Ditambahkan Sjafrie, pihaknya juga telah mencapai kesepakatan kerja sama dengan Rusia untuk meningkatkan profesionalisme prajurit dengan melakukan pengiriman untuk mengikuti pendidikan pelatihan.



Sumber : Antara

http://www.zacharz.com/lebourget/su27/001.jpg

[equilibrium37]

[quote=makavelli;2274132]in lebanon
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c360/andezh/p1035488gx4.jpg

Is that a French made VBL .. or the Indonesian made P2 Komando

[equilibrium37]

ohh .. lucky in understand indonesian haha.

[Kopassus]

The Sukhoi on the picture is a Su-27SKM
The Su-27SKM single-seat multi-role fighter is a derivative of the Su-27SK fighter.

The fighter is designed to destroy aerial targets in free air and against the background of land; and surface (ground and sea) targets with guided and unguided weapons at day and night under the all-weather conditions.

The main features of the Su-27SKM fighter are the following:

an improved fire control system boasting enhanced surface-target capabilities;
an advanced cockpit management system;
an improved navigation and communications suite;
more sophisticated self-defense electronic countermeasures (ECM) suite;
an expanded air-to-air and air-to-surface weapons suite with the ordnance mounted externally on 10 hardpoints;
an in-flight refueling system.
The fire control system of Su-27SKM provides for detection, tracking and hitting by onboard weapons aerial and surface targets round the clock and in any weather. The fire control system ensures the application of wider range (in comparison with the Su-27SK fighter) of weapon including the RVV-AE medium-range air-to-air active radar-homing missiles, and air-to-ground high-precision guided weapon with different types of guidance. The fire control system of Su-27SKM comprises two major subsystems: the first subsystem for air-to-air weapons and the second one for air-to-surface weapons.

The mainstays of the cockpit management system are two colour multifunction liquid crystal displays (LCD), colour multifunction display panel with push-buttons, and head up-display. These displays show all required digital and visual target designation, flight and navigation data as well as data on the aircraft systems status. Along with the multifunction LCDs, the instrument panel houses traditional electromechanical instruments, which act mostly as backups.

[Kopassus]

Its a VBL...

[equilibrium37]

how about the existing fighters .. SKM or SK ?

[equilibrium37]

Its a VBL...

Thankss..!

[Kopassus]

2 x Su-27SK
2 x Su-30MK

[equilibrium37]

Finally TNI-AU is getting the weapons for the Sukhois.

[equilibrium37]

Do Indonesian troops carry any sidearm? I never see pictures with troops carrying sidearm.

[KingoftheHill]

Finally TNI-AU is getting the weapons for the Sukhois.
WTF?

Why don't they have any weapons?

[equilibrium37]

yepp .. no weapons. The 4 Sukhois came with no weapons. Its not clear wether the Govt. purchased any weapons after they came. Aparently those 4 are just for training/just for the pilots to get used to the aircraft. Because it wasnt clear wether the govt. would purchase more crafts or not. But now we know that they will.

[makavelli]

english pls..!


now the 4 su got weapons in it..
about sidearm, im not clear myself..

[KingoftheHill]

yepp .. no weapons. The 4 Sukhois came with no weapons. Its not clear wether the Govt. purchased any weapons after they came. Aparently those 4 are just for training/just for the pilots to get used to the aircraft. Because it wasnt clear wether the govt. would purchase more crafts or not. But now we know that they will.
Maybe they were a political message, because 4 Sukhois aren't sh1t.

[equilibrium37]

Its enough to scare the hell outta Australia .. LOL just kidding.

[Kopassus]

Exercise Rajawali Ausindo is a C-130 Hercules aircraft interoperability exercise being conducted by the Indonesian Air Force and the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) at RAAF Base Richmond between 27 November and 29 November 06.
Exercise Rajawali Ausindo will improve Australian and Indonesian air transport skills to respond more effectively to future natural disasters whether in Indonesia or elsewhere in the region.
The exercise involves airlift training and practice drops of equipment and supplies, as well as information exchanges on humanitarian assistance and disaster relief operations.
This exercise demonstrates the commitment between Australia and Indonesia to strengthen the Defence relationship in areas of mutual security and promote friendship and cooperation between the nations’ air forces.

http://www.defence.gov.au/media/download/2006/Dec/20061201a/20061127raaf8208022_0016_lo.jpg

Participants in Exercise Rajawali Ausindo 2006 line up in front of an Indonesian Air Force C-130H Hercules. (A1323)

[Kopassus]

TNI AU DAN RAAF GELAR LATIHAN BERSAMA RAJAWALI AUSINDO 2006
05 Des 2006

TNI Angkatan Udara dan Royal Australia Air Force (RAAF) menggelar latihan udara bersama dengan sandi Rajawali Ausindo 2006 di Pangkalan Richmond Air Force Base (AFB) Australia, selama lima hari dari tanggal 27 Nopember hingga 1 Desember 2006.


Rajawali Ausindo merupakan latihan bersama antara TNI AU dengan RAAF dalam bidang operasi udara dengan menggunakan pesawat angkut jenis C-130 Hercules, yang melibatkan personel dari para penerbang Skadron Udara 31 Lanud Halim Perdanakusuma, Skadron Udara 32 Lanud Abd Saleh, Malang, Navigator, Flight Engineer, Load Master, Paskhasau serta Perbekud TNI AD serta dari RAAF Skadron 37 yang menggunakan pesawat C-130 dan C-130J.


Materi latihan yang dilaksanakan diantaranya adalah Demontration of Drop Operations, Demontration and Training Container Delivery System (CDS) Operations, Demontration of Combat Offload Operations, Review of Maintaining Platform and BP Systems, Review of Ideal Dropping Zone and Air Drop Procedures, Review of Land Operation and Procedures, Review of Assault Operation and Procedures, serta Review and Demonstrate Cargo Rigging.


Tujuan latihan Rajawali Ausindo adalah untuk mempererat hubungan persahabatan kedua negara khususnya kedua Angkatan Udara antara TNI AU dan RAAF, selain itu diharapkan pula dapat meningkatkan profesionalisme para Penerbang beserta Crew C-130 Hercules dalam taktik dan teknik Operasi Udara.


Sasaran latihan diharapkan dapat meningkatkan kemampuan operasional awak C-130 dalam bidang Cargo Drop, kemampuan penerbang C-130 dalam melaksanakan “Tactical Flying” serta dapat menambah pengetahuan dari awak pesawat C-130 RAAF dalam taktik dan teknik penerbangan dropping dengan pesawat C-130 dan C-130J.


Sedangkan latihan lain yang dilaksanakan dengan Australia adalah Elang Ausindo yang mengutamakan kemampuan para penerbang pesawat tempur dalam pertempuran udara (Dog Fight) serta Camar Ausindo latihan bersama tentang Patroli Udara Bersama.

[makavelli]

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l69/kecemplunglagi/lain-lain/KRIIrian.png
KRI Irian (made in Soviet Union)
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l69/kecemplunglagi/lain-lain/HiuKencana.png
Hiu Kencana
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l69/kecemplunglagi/lain-lain/AURI-SA2exrussia.png
SA-2 drag race in Asia-Afrika Rd
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l69/kecemplunglagi/lain-lain/KKO-APCexrussia.png
KKO ex Soviet Union
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l69/kecemplunglagi/lain-lain/scan001001.png
unknown ships during early 60's

[Dark Avenger]

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l69/kecemplunglagi/lain-lain/KKO-APCexrussia.png

Interesting; BTR-50PK with a locally made pintle mount for an aircraft type M2 12,7mm MG... Nice find, thanks.

[Kopassus]

Makasih Makaveli!woot

[Silent_Hunter]

http://www.tni.mil.id/images/news/lat_paska.jpg

[KingoftheHill]

22703

22704

22705

Enjoy!

[KingoftheHill]

22783

22784

[Silent_Hunter]

http://www.angkasa-online.com/public/foto//pas2.jpg

[equilibrium37]

A few days ago i just read an article about the National Korvet plan. Some KSAL quoted "We dont even know if we can build this thing with the help of Italians." Any feedbacks?

[makavelli]

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m230/seasicklers/KRIYOSSUDARSO.jpg
KRI Yos Sudarso
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1483/seacatdr5.jpg
KRI Yos Sudarso - 353 fired Sea Cat (upgraded with Mistral)

[makavelli]

Looking Back at Sukarno's Navy
The Indonesian Navy During the Confrontation and After By Dave (Syd) Morris (DandMMorris@aol.com) Radio Operator (Tactical) on H.M.S. Dartington 62-64


Looking back at the confrontation with the wisdom (and cynicism) of age, my immediate thoughts are that as a young (19/20) and lowly sailor on a small ship, I had little appreciation of the strategic or even the wider, tactical picture of naval operations in the war against Sukarno. However, as a Radio Operator (Tactical), I saw most of the signals, so perhaps I'm doing myself an injustice. Perhaps we knew enough to appreciate the situation and do our jobs, even though we didn't have today's multimedia to inform or misinform but others who were in a similar position may remember things differently. Dave (Syd) Morris (seated)

It could just have been that we knew what was happening but didn't bother much and got on with our task in our relatively small sphere of operations. Perhaps we had more important things to worry about, like when and where our next run ashore was and did we have enough money? I do recall that we had some idea of the composition of the Indonesian Navy, but never considered them to be much of a realistic threat. Rightly or wrongly we didn't fully appreciate that there was really any risk, particularly compared to those engaged in the front line ashore. Prior to Sukarno the Indonesian Navy was a small hotch potch of old British, Dutch, American and Italian built ships but in the late 50s and early 60s Indonesia acquired a significant number of Soviet warships. It was as though Sukarno was gathering around him, like badges of office, the hardware he considered to be the essential trappings of a dictator with expansionist ambitions. But like a child collecting baubles, his fleet turned out to be decorational rather than operational. Time would show that Sukarno was either unwilling or unable to commit his naval forces. He may even have been deterred by an earlier loss, for on January 5th 1962 an Indonesian German-built `Jaguar' torpedo boat named Madjan Tutal was sunk by Dutch warships whilst trying to land infiltrators in Borneo. It could be argued that during the confrontation Indonesia had in some respects, albeit on paper, a larger naval force in the Far East than the UK. Sukarno certainly seemed to have sufficient vessels necessary for limited naval operations and the forthcoming confrontation. During the period January 1963 to December 1965 Sukarno had a substantial and varied naval force at his disposal but the number of ships actually in an operational state is a matter of speculation. It was known that the Indonesian Navy was reduced in operational efficiency through lack of material, maintenance, and personnel and it was even rumoured that the Indonesian submarines were manned predominantly by Soviet personnel.
Although the UK had a large force available during the confrontation, the primary task at sea was a defensive one in support of the extensive and varied shore operations. Whilst there was so much action happening ashore, the primary role of the minor war vessels was to patrol the Borneo and Malaya coastal areas, stopping and searching suspect fishing boats. When necessary the sweepers conducted other operations such as inshore, short distance, troop transportation including transporting SBS canoeists and their canoes for launching outside Indonesian waters. The main aim, however, was to deter transportation of men and military material. The inshore phase of this task was conducted almost exclusively throughout 1963 by the eight Ton class coastal minesweepers of the 6th Minesweeping Squadron based in Singapore. From the very start of operations in Brunei the ships of the 6th MSS adopted the title of `8th Assault Squadron' and flew a specially designed flag. This flag, based on flag `S', incorporated an anchor, a Commando dagger, the figure 8 and a jagged line to represent the river on which Brunei stands. The Ton class was lightly armed with one 40mm Bofors gun and a twin 20mm Oerlikon, with a maximum speed of 15 knots (operational speed normally 13). However, these small workhorses were limited in what they could achieve. With their lack of speed and given the distance from Singapore to Kuching, the base for Borneo operations, there was little slack in the system. There would usually be one ship in refit in Singapore and another undergoing docking. When not in the patrol area (two ships at a time, one at sea, one in Kuching) or transiting to or from the patrol area, there wasn't much time for recreational visits. During patrol periods the only places we visited, apart from Kuching, were upriver to Sibu, Song and beyond to Kapit, the island of Labuan, which was quite a good respite, and Turtle Island. On Labuan Island there was an old naval cemetery but it was another cemetery that I found very moving. As the ship's postman I had to travel across the island to collect the mail and running alongside the main road for a great distance were rows upon rows of war graves, mainly ANZACS killed during the fighting to clear Borneo of the Japanese during World War II. It seemed such a lonely place so far away from home for young Australians and New Zealanders to die. Turtle Island was an idyllic island populated only by turtles and we often stopped there for a banyan (beach picnic) and swimming. These visits were stopped when we received a signal from the Far East Naval Command ordering us not to visit there anymore as it was `interfering with the turtles' copulation'. Thirty-seven years, later whilst reading `SBS The Invisible Raiders' by James D. Ladd, I learnt that an SBS canoe team had been secretly inserted onto Turtle Island from where canoes ran into Datu Point at night and established a hidden OP. On one occasion a patrolling RN vessel mistook the canoes coming in to relieve the men in the OP for Indonesians - fortunately with no 'own goals'. So it wasn't just the turtles we were disturbing.
Near the end of my time in Dartington, the newly acquired patrol craft of the Malaysian Navy took on some patrol duties. After I left, the confrontation escalated to the Malaysian mainland coast. The number of ships was increased and the ships of the Hong Kong Squadron and others joined in operations around Borneo, Singapore and Malaya. For river and close inshore work in North Borneo, every conceivable small boat in Brunei, and later Sarawak, was pressed into service with a Royal Naval or Royal Marine crew. These included cabin cruisers, dories, assault boats, inflatables and canoes. Even the Sultan of Brunei's yacht was utilised in the early stages of operations and an SRN-5 hovercraft, piloted by an SBS officer, proved effective in the swamps near the border. Those craft crewed by the RN were usually commanded by a Midshipman or Sub-Lieutenant, with a stoker, seaman and perhaps a communicator. The smaller of the boats operating up river sometimes had a crew of just three junior rates - seaman, communicator and stoker.
The Ton class sweeper's operational speed of 13 knots did not always give a significant speed advantage and the process of searching suspect vessels usually relied on being able to outrun the suspect vessel or encouraging it to stop so that it could be caught and searched. On one occasion a native longboat was spotted close to the shore proceeding very quickly. To encourage it to stop we fired small arms in its general direction and eventually the Bofors gun crew was closed up and break up shot was fired. It had no effect. The native boatman knew he was safe. We were some distance away and he had a great speed advantage; he ignored us and went on his way. During the course of our stop and search operations I don't remember Dartington finding any Indonesians. Although all our searches continued to be negative we still approached each one with due seriousness. Reports of positive searches by other sweepers and incidents of armed resistance and casualties, were constant reminders that each stop and search was a potential danger.
Whilst I was in Dartington, we had no real contact with the Indonesian Navy. On one patrol, some distance from the coast in company with another sweeper, we spotted an Indonesian missile patrol boat close inshore. It was too far away for either to take any notice of each other. Just as well really - Bofors, Oerlikons and an operational speed of 13 knots are no match for a Styx missile on a 40-knot patrol boat! I don't remember seeing any reports of any significant RN contact with the Indonesian Navy, but no doubt someone, somewhere, has a record of such contacts.
Overall the naval aspects of the confrontation were a typical British approach of limited and necessary force, generally and overtly defensive in nature. Sukarno may have made the same mistake that the Argentineans would make some years later. He probably misread the messages and then grossly underestimated the response, commitment and resolution of the British government, the British people and the British armed forces. Having witnessed the initial response, Sukarno would have been reluctant to escalate the confrontation at sea by committing his naval forces to an offensive role. By this time he will have realised that the British reaction would have been predictable and swift. Britain had committed only those forces necessary for the limited sea operations, but if provoked, there would have been no hesitation in bringing the larger units of the Far East Fleet into play in a more offensive role. Carriers with fixed wing strike aircraft, big gun cruisers, destroyers, frigates and submarines. There was also the possibility of further strengthening of the fleet by other RN, Commonwealth or Allied units - Australian, Canadian and New Zealand units took part in FOTEX 63 (Flag Officer's Training Exercise 1963). Forty units from 5 different navies participated in FOTEX 65, and this included 4 flat tops - Melbourne, Eagle, Victorious and Bulwark. Maybe Sukarno didn't have the will or the confidence in his navy and so the only significant operation in which his ships engaged, that I am aware of, was to set up caches of arms and explosives in the Riau Archipelago, a line of islands south of Singapore. Attempted incursions into Malaysian waters by small Indonesian naval craft were generally deterred by low flying fixed wing aircraft.



THE CONFRONTATION - 1962 TO 1966
Much of the following information is taken from various editions of `Jane's Fighting Ships' and `The World's Navies'. The maximum speeds shown relate to when the vessel was first built and the armaments listed are those usually fitted to that type of ship and do not include any local modifications. Just because these ships are listed on the strength of the Indonesian Navy does not necessarily mean that they were operational, efficient or effective. On the contrary, later experience showed that they went into rapid decline on the reduction and withdrawal of Soviet support on Sukarno's departure. As late as 1999, the Indonesian Navy was still suffering from a lack of funding, manning, equipment and maintenance.
MAJOR UNITS
7 destroyers, 12 frigates, 17 corvettes, 6 submarines, 15 amphibious vessels.
LIGHT FORCES
12 missile boats, 18 gunboats, 21 torpedo boats.
MISCELLANEOUS FORCES
6 submarine chasers, 25 patrol boats, 10 motor launches, 20 minesweepers, 4 survey vessels, 4 depot ships, 9 oilers,
10 auxiliaries
Details of all these vessels are contained in annex A.
THE ROYAL NAVY FAR EAST FLEET DURING THE 1960s
The strength of an individual fleet at any given time is not as easy to ascertain as that of a national navy. The size of the Far East Fleet was constantly changing depending upon policy and availability of ships, and the actual units that comprised the fleet were changed round at regular intervals. The following is gleaned from a variety of sources including the Drafting Forecast sections of Navy News July 1962 and May 1963, and information gratefully received from Peter Green. Some of it is an estimate based on personal experience of three tours of duty East of Suez in the 1960s.
In the 1960s Britain's strategy for maintaining a fleet East of Suez took two forms. Some units, usually minor war vessels but on occasion larger units, were kept on station and the crews changed as a whole or as individuals. The larger units, including the destroyer, frigate, and submarine squadrons, changed at regular intervals as ships and even whole squadrons commissioned in the UK and proceeded East of Suez to relieve those on station. The number of units on station could be easily increased by retaining those relieved by units from the UK.
In general terms the RN Far East Fleet at any one time in the 1960s would have probably have been:
1 strike carrier
Embarked - three fixed wing squadrons - fighters, bombers and AEW (Air Early Warning) plus one ASW (Anti Submarine Warfare) helicopter squadron. Centaur, Eagle, Ark Royal, Victorious, Hermes in turn. The strike carriers usually handed over in the East and generally operated together before one headed for home. Both Eagle and Victorious took part in FOTEX 65. In 1967 Victorious handed over to Hermes off Aden in support of British run down and withdrawal operations.
1 Commando carrier.
Embarked - two squadrons of troop carrying helicopters plus one full Royal Marine Commando and supporting units. Bulwark and Albion in turn, usually handing over in Aden. The LPD (Landing Platform Dock) Fearless also formed part of the Far East Fleet in 1967.
1 cruiser.
Belfast until 1962 then Lion, Tiger and Blake in turn.
1 escort maintenance ship.
Hartland Point 1960 - 1965.
Escorts.
1 destroyer squadron, ships on rotation from the UK - mainly CA class, Battle class, Daring class and County class.
1 frigate squadron, ships on rotation from the UK - mainly R class, Loch class, Type 61, Rothesay class and Leander class.
In 1963 destroyers and frigates were combined to form `Escort Squadrons' of mixed composition.
1 submarine squadron/division.
Conventional boats and depot Ship (Forth 1965 - 1972).
Inshore Flotilla (Singapore).
1 minesweeper repair ship
Mull of Kintyre 1961 - 1967.
1 Headquarters ship
(Captain Inshore Flotilla) Woodbridge Haven 1960 - 1963, Manxman from 1963
8 Ton Class Coastal Minesweepers Chawton, Dartington, Fiskerton, Houghton, Maryton, Puncheston, Soberton, Wilkieston. (From 1964 onwards further mine warfare vessels were sent to augment the Far East Fleet). Ships remained based in Singapore, individual members of the crew changed after 30 months if accompanied by family or 18 months if unaccompanied
Hong Kong Squadron.
Inshore minesweepers used to patrol the waters surrounding the colony. Ships remained based in Hong Kong, individual members of the crew changed after 30 months if accompanied by family or 18 months if unaccompanied
Miscellaneous.
Survey vessels (e.g. Cook, Dampier), despatch boat Alert, auxiliaries.
THE MIDDLE EAST.
Based in Aden.
Escorts
(in rotation) - Loch Class frigates until the early 1960s then the Tribal Class. These were newly built, the first RN ships to be constructed with a full air conditioning system. They were purpose designed for service in the Persian Gulf.
Mine warfare vessels
Ton class coastal minesweepers.
Permanently based in Aden or other Persian Gulf ports.
The Amphibious Warfare Squadron
1 Headquarters Ship Meon
2 LST (Landing Ship Tank)
2 LCT (Landing Craft Tank)
WEAPONS.
The first RN ships to appear in the Far East with missile systems were the Leander class frigates armed with the Seacat short-range surface-to- air system and the County class destroyers armed with the Seaslug medium range surface-to-air system. These systems could theoretically be used in a surface-to-surface role but this may never have been validated in practice. Both classes started to arrive in the Far East late 1963/1964.
THE SHIPS
A list of some of the units that formed part of the Royal Navy Far East Fleet at some time during 1962 to 1966 is contained in annex B.
THE REMNANTS OF THE INDONESIAN NAVY - 1975
There were few significant withdrawals/deletions from the reported strength of the Indonesian Navy during the period 1965 - 1974, but in reality Surabaya Dockyard in 1975 told a totally different story.
In the latter half of 1975, Task Group 317.3, on a round the world deployment out through Suez and home via Panama, visited Surabaya in Java, the chief port of the Indonesian Navy. The Task Group was commanded by the Flag Officer Second Flotilla (FOF2) - Rear Admiral John D.E. Fieldhouse using HMS Glamorgan as his flagship. This visit to Surabaya was significant in that it was the first visit to an Indonesia port by RN ships since the confrontation, although the Indonesian Navy had exercised with the New Zealanders as part of a SEATO exercise. This was the only time on this deployment that a Royal Fleet Auxiliary vessel was refused access to a port. Although previously classed as unarmed merchant ships and therefore having access to any commercial port, the fitting of a helicopter, which was classed as a weapon, changed this. RFAs now often found themselves berthed or anchored some way from the RN ships and the main port and this was the case in Surabaya. The RN group was scheduled to take part in an exercise with the Indonesian Navy, which they would organise, FOF2 taking charge of the more specialized and complicated serials such as replenishment.
The naval yard at Surabaya contained the remnants of Sukarno's navy. It was crammed full of ships and although they were all fully manned they were generally non-operational, mainly due to lack of spares. The Soviets had withdrawn all support on Sukarno's departure and the ships had been systematically depleted of machinery and equipment. They had been cannibalized in an effort to keep some of the major units of the navy afloat and operational. By this time their operational strength was down to two ex-USSR Riga class frigates and one submarine. It was the two frigates, Nuku and Lambung Mangkurat, with whom the RN ships would be exercising. A joint planning conference and harbour evolutions did not inspire confidence in the RN personnel who attended as part of the preparations for the forthcoming exercise and harbour training highlighted the material shortcomings and lack of expertise of the Indonesian ships. Luckily the exercise at sea was only to last a few hours, all in daylight. RN personnel sailed on the Indonesian ships, with one Seaman Chief Petty Officer and one Leading Radio Operator (Tactical) on each. One of the tasks the Seaman CPOs undertook was to show the Indonesians how to rig a jackstay, which they had not done before. The motivation was great because the RN personnel would be using the jackstay to return to Glamorgan. The exercise went off without any major mishaps apart from one of the Indonesian frigates, the flagship, breaking down and limping back into port. A reliable source stated that the one submarine that the Indonesians had left could not be submerged. Whenever there were foreign ships in port they would steam it out of harbour each morning with due ceremony to attract attention. The boat would spend the day out of sight somewhere on the surface, then steam back into port in the evening with more ceremony. The Indonesians were, however, optimistic about the future, as they were about to take delivery of ex-US Navy ships.



THE TRANSITION - 1979
In 1979 it was reported that the Indonesian Navy had obtained 4 ex-US Claud Jones class frigates in 1973/74 but there was no sign of these in Surabaya in 1975. They were actually refitted in Subic Bay in 1979/82 so may not have been operational before this. The navy was reported of consisting of 3 Riga, 2 Surapati and 2 or 3 Pattimura class frigates but it is doubtful if many, if any at all, were fully operational at this time. The same would apply to the submarines of which 3 Whisky class were reported. Of the original patrol craft there were 4 torpedo boats and 3 large patrol craft left with 4 new missile boats on order from South Korea



THE NEW ERA - 1979 and beyond.
In the mid 1970s Indonesia started the redevelopment of its navy and by 1999 boasted a fleet of mainly relatively modern ships and equipment from non-Communist sources. However, the operational ability and development of the navy was still adversely affected by funding, manning and maintenance problems - a symptom of the continuing political instability in the country.
THE INDONESIAN NAVY 1999
MAJOR UNITS
17 frigates, 16 corvettes, 2 submarines, 25 amphibious vessels
LIGHT FORCES
24 patrol craft
MISCELLANEOUS FORCES
9 mine warfare vessels, 10 miscellaneous vessels, 12 auxiliaries
Details of all these vessels are contained in annex C.
Annex A

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THE INDONESIAN NAVY DURING THE CONFRONTATION 1962 - 1966
MAJOR UNITS Destroyers - 7
Four USSR 'Skory' class destroyers purchased from Poland in 1959, a fifth in 1962 and two more in 1964.
Built in the early to mid 50s, 5.1" gun, 33 knots.
Frigates - 12
Four built in Italy in 1958 - 2 `Surapati' class - 4" guns, 22 knots, 2 `Pattimura`' class - 3" guns, 18 knots.
Two `Riga' class transferred from the USSR in 1962, 2 more in 1963 and 4 in 1964 - 3.9" guns, 28 knots.
Corvettes - 17
Fourteen ex-USSR `Kronstadt' type corvettes acquired in 1958. Built between 1951 and 1954, 3.9" gun, 24 knots.
That same year they acquired the first of four elderly ex-US PC corvettes built in 1942/43, one of which was removed from service in 1961. These had a 3" gun and a maximum speed of 20 knots.
Submarines - 6
Between 1959 and 1962 Indonesia acquired a total of 14 ex-USSR `W' class medium size, long-range submarines. One was overhauled in Surabaya in 1960, no doubt with Soviet technical assistance. On receiving the final four in 1962 it was reported that only six would be operational, with six kept in reserve and two used for spare parts. This policy of spare part cannibalization was to be applied ruthlessly to the whole of the Indonesian fleet in future years. The `W' class was armed with guns, heaviest 2.4 inch, and torpedoes, 4 tubes forward and 2 aft. Maximum speed 17 knots on the surface, 15 submerged.
Amphibious Vessels - 15
6 LSTs and 9 LCTs, a mixture of ex-US, Japanese, Yugoslav and USSR ships acquired between 1958 and 1961.
LIGHT FORCES
Missile Boats - 12
Ex-USSR `Komar' Class. Six were transferred to Indonesia between 1961 and 1963, four in September 1964 and the final two in 1965. Armed with 2 launchers for SSN2A (Styx) missiles, speed 40 knots.
Gun Boats -18
Ex-USSR `BK' Class transferred in 1961/62. Armed with 85mm gun, speed 20 knots.
Torpedo Boats - 21
7 German-built (1959/60) `Jaguar' type. 40mm gun and four 21" torpedo tubes, 42 knots. Ex-USSR `P6' type. 8 delivered in 1961, 6 in 1962. 25 mm AA guns, two 21" torpedo tubes, 25 knots.
MISCELLANEOUS FORCES
6 Submarine Chasers - ex-Yugoslavian `Kraljevica' type. Purchased in 1958. 3" gun, 12 knots.
25 Patrol Boats - ex-British/Dutch HDML type built between 1943 and 46. 37 mm gun, 11 knots.
10 motor launches - ex-US and ex-Dutch.
20 minesweepers - 6 fleet, 14 coastal.
4 survey vessels
4 depot ships
9 oilers
10 auxiliaries

Annex B.
SHIPS OF THE ROYAL NAVY FAR EAST FLEET 1962 - 1966.
The following are some of the units that formed part of the Royal Navy Far East Fleet at some time during 1962 to 1966:
ROYAL NAVY
Strike Carriers
Ark Royal, Centaur, Eagle, Hermes, Victorious
Commando Carriers
Albion, Bulwark
Cruisers
Belfast, Blake, Lion, Tiger
Escort Maintenance Ship
Hartland Point
Destroyers
Agincourt, Aisne, Barossa, Caesar, Cambrian, Caprice, Carysfort, Cassandra, Cavalier, Cavendish, Decoy, Delight, Devonshire, Diana, Duchess, Hampshire, Kent, London
Frigates
Ajax, Berwick, Blackpool, Brighton, Chichester, Cleopatra, Dido, Eastbourne, Euryalus, Falmouth, Galatea, Leander, Leopard, Lincoln, Llandaff, Loch Alvie, Loch Fada, Lock Killisport, Loch Lomond, Londonderry, Lowestoft, Plymouth, Rapid, Relentless, Rhyl, Rocket, Salisbury, Troubridge, Verulam, Whitby
Minesweeper Support
Mull of Kintyre, Manxman, Woodbridge Haven
Minesweepers - Coastal
Bossington, Chawton, Dartington, Dufton, Fiskerton, Hickleton, Houghton, Hubberston, Invermoriston, Kemerton, Kildarton, Lanton, Lullington, Maryton, Penston, Picton, Puncheston, Santon, Sheraton, Thankerton, Wilkieston, Woolaston
Minesweepers - Inshore
Glentham, Hovingham, Davenham, Felmersham
Despatch Boat
Alert
Submarine Depot Ship
Forth
Submarines
Alliance, Ambush, Amphion, Anchorite, Andrew, Oberon, Tapir
Survey Ships
Cook, Dampier
Royal Fleet Auxiliaries
Brown Ranger, Eddycreek, Eddyrock, Fort Beauharnois, Fort Charlotte, Fort Dunvegan, Fort Duquesne, Fort Langley, Fort Rosalie, Fort Sandusky, Oakol, Reliant, Resurgent, Retainer, Tideflow, Tidepool, Tidereach, Tidespring, Tidesurge, Wave Knight, Wave Sovereign
ROYAL AUSTRALIAN NAVY
Curlew, Gull, Hawk, Ibis, Snipe, Teal
ROYAL NEW ZEALAND NAVY
Hickleton, Santon
Annex C

THE INDONESIAN NAVY 1999
MAJOR UNITS
Frigates - 17
6 Ahmadiani class, ex Dutch Van Speijk class (British Leander design). Transferred between 1986 to 1990.
Armed with Harpoon and Seacat missile systems, 3" gun and torpedoes.
3 Khristina Tiyahahu, ex British Tribal class (Zulu', Gurkha and Tartar). Transferred in 1985 and 86.
Armed with Matra Simbad missile system, 4.5" gun and mortars.
3 Fatahillah class. Ordered in 1975 and built in Holland in 1979/80.
Armed with Exocet, 4.7" gun, torpedoes and A/S mortars. Officially rated as corvettes.
1 Ki Hajar Demantara class. Ordered in 1978 and built in Yugoslavia in 1981 (hull and engines).
Completed with Dutch and Indonesian armament and electronics in Surabaya, Indonesia.
Armed with Exocet and 5.7mm gun.
4 Samadikun class, ex US Claud Jones class. Transferred in 1973 and 74, refitted in Subic Bay 1979 to 82.
Were to be replaced by the Van Speijk class but remained in service, although much time spent in maintenance.
Corvettes - 16
16 Kapitan Patimura class, ex GDR. Transferred in 1993.
In 1999 some doubt remained about the operational state of these vessels due to a problem in training crews quick enough to keep them all in service. Despite engine problems the class was widely reported as being very active.
Submarines - 2
2 Cakra class SSK, ex German type 206. Built in 1981, transferred to Indonesia in 1997.
Amphibious Vessels - 25
A variety of LST and LSM ex US, South Korean, Japanese, including 12 new craft from West Germany in 1993.
LIGHT FORCES
Patrol Craft - 24
8 Sibaru class ex Australian Large Patrol Craft, built in 1967 and 68, transferred between 1973 and 85.
4 Dagger fast attack craft transferred from South Korea in 1979/80.
4 Suma large patrol craft commissioned between 1988 and 1993.
4 Kapak class large patrol craft built in West Germany and completed in Surabaya between 1988 and 95.
4 `57' class large patrol craft building in Surabaya.
MISCELLANEOUS FORCES
9 mine warfare Vessels
10 miscellaneous Vessels
12 auxiliaries

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Poland-made patrol boats to strengthen Indonesian police fleet


Jakarta (ANTARA News) - Five patrol boats made in Gdansk, Poland, will strengthen the Indonesian Police (Polri) fleet to reduce such crimes as poaching, smuggling, and illegal logging which had caused the country to suffer tens of trillions of rupiahs annually, the Indonesian Embassy in Warsaw has said.

Gydnia Naval Shipyard (GNS) and Polri officials signed a document on the sending of the five boats from Gdansk to Indonesia, the embassy said in a statement made available to ANTARA News here.

Indonesian Ambassador to Poland Hazairin Pohan witnessed the signing, it said.

The Polish government has already finished a US$24.48 million-contract to build the five patrol boats and will send them either in February or March.

The five patrol boats are of the modern B-2 (NS-935) class which can each accommodate 25-30 personnel and carry complete weaponry system.

Each vessel is 36.4 meters long and 6.8 meters wide with a dead weight of 198 tons and a speed capacity of 26.5 knots.

The statement said the making of five boats was financed by a First Phase Export Credit scheme worth US$145 million agreed by the two countries.

Through the mechanism, Polri and the Indonesian Defense Forces (TNI) bought military equipment like long-range radar, rockets, Mi-2 plus helicopter, Skytruck plane and the patrol boats from Poland.

The military equipment for TNI was sent in 2006.

Based on the scheme, GNS leaders have told Ambassador Hazairin that they are ready to cooperate with Indonesian shipyard PT PAL to jointly produce various kinds of ships for Indonesia itself or other Asian countries.

The cooperation will allow Indonesia and Poland to conduct a transfer of technology and training programs for Indonesian technicians as well as to establish a docking and shipyard production center in Indonesia. (*)

detail of ship
http://www.navship.pl/en/ns935.html

source
http://www.antara.co.id/en/seenws/?id=27273

[equilibrium37]

Why is the Indonesian Police buying Patrol Boats where PT.Pal are allready manufacturing them. Its cheaper, and if their complaining about weaponery and communication system, they always can upgrade them using foreign stuffs.

[KingoftheHill]

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[makavelli]

Why is the Indonesian Police buying Patrol Boats where PT.Pal are allready manufacturing them. Its cheaper, and if their complaining about weaponery and communication system, they always can upgrade them using foreign stuffs.

pal's dock is busy with national frigate (2 ship LPD class if im not mistaken) and other got contract with local oil company (pertamina) for tanker. they also expect transfer in technology, so sometime soon theyll manufacture licensed product.

i heard that the 10 russian sub will be locally produced, but no confirmation yet.

[Silent_Hunter]

http://www.tniad.mil.id/gallery/photo_44e944a2121dc226bfc52d1653a2a20a.jpg

KOstrad Sniper

[makavelli]

Indonesia's latest LPD in South Korea

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http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/ambalat/Indonesian%20Navy/lpd1tu6.jpg

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Indonesia's latest LPD in South Korea

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/ambalat/Indonesian%20Navy/lpd3yj4.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/ambalat/Indonesian%20Navy/lpd2tg4.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/ambalat/Indonesian%20Navy/lpd1tu6.jpg
impressive

[KingoftheHill]

Is Daewoo or Hyundai building that ship?

[Tempest]

Enjoy these pics! Hope the defense co-op agreement between Indonesia and my country will be confirmed soon.

[Arvln]

Is Daewoo or Hyundai building that ship?

I think that is Daewoo. PT PAL in Surabaya is suppose to build the next 2 ships of that class, I am hoping that it will happen.

[Kopassus]

Thanks Makaveli, very nice ship!

[kakitsubata]

Is Daewoo or Hyundai building that ship?

The main contractor is Dae Sun shipbuilding, not one of the largest builders in Korea, but one of the oldest. Not sure the relationship between the company and Daewoo, but for the Indonesian deal, they did conduct the business through Daewoo International, so maybe part of the conglomorate, or partnership. It's not part of the Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering (DSME) company at least.

[Tempest]

t'long tambah kavaleri fotos ya mas makavelli:)

[Silent_Hunter]

New Hawk Aircraft for the Air Force?
Good news for the Indonesian Air Force (IAF), new multi-role lightweight jetfighter and advanced training Hawk aircraft may strengthen its squadron in near future. Defense Minister Juwono Sudarsono announced the news early February saying that Indonesia currently may procure the Hawk fighter from England.
"But it is up to TNI head Air Chief Marshal Djoko Suyanto and Air Force Chief-of-Staff Air Chief Marshal Herman Prayitno to determine (of procuring) the Hawk, whether meet technical specification and our budget range," said the minister.
Among the specification, whether the fighter-trainer aircraft would still be reliable in 10 years time. Several type of Hawks, from BAe System's Hawk Mk-53 to more modern Hawk 100 and Hawk 200 were already in service for many years in the Indonesian Air Froce. A total of more than 40 Hawks had strengthen IAF squadrons.
The number dwindled sharply as the U.S.and U.K. imposed embargo on spare-parts for aircraft manufactured by the two Western countries following the East Timor crisis. Recently the embargo had been lifted but in the meantime, Indonesia look to other sources for its need of fighter planes as well trainers and other military equipments.
Several countries had offered to sell weaponry to Indonesia, including Britain, South Korea, Poland and China. "We are studying the offer from Britain, and will compare the offers from other countries," said Juwono as quoted by Antara new agency.
Since in service with the Royal Air Force in 1976, over 800 Hawks had been delivered worldwide. Beside Indonesia, countries operating the Hawk fighter-trainer aircraft include Malaysia, South Korea, Zimbabwe, Kenya, Saudi Arabia, Oman, United Arab Emirates, Finland, and the U.S. (ds)

[Silent_Hunter]

Indonesia Interested to Procure Mi-26T
Indonesia is very keen to procure Russian-made Mi-26T multipurpose heavy-lift helicopter, especially the fire-fighting version. Not only one, but two units to be procured along with two fire-fighting amphibious Beriev Be-200 aircraft.
Angkasa source recently said, a demonstration flight will be conducted in the presence of President Susilo Bambang Yudhyono April next month in Jambi, Sumatera. An M-26T helicopter will be ferry flown from Russia to Jakarta for the purpose.<