Infantry the "queen of battle" etc... - Page 14

trunk_munkey28 · 11-03-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Virus

Well as an 11C(Indirect Fire Infantryman) I CAN do that, and in three flavors as well.

In one round?

Minardiau · 11-03-2009, 04:27 PM

Every member of an armed forces is trained as a riflemen irrespective of what their MOS is.

Just saying

Auzzzie · 11-03-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HollywoodMarine

Gawd damn... I'd buy this man a drink.

I'm up for it any time you like.

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Originally Posted by Minardiau

Every member of an armed forces is trained as a riflemen irrespective of what their MOS is.

Just saying

Yeah, the same way somebody at primary school is trained in mathematics in comparison to some dude at university with a funny hat and a few chalkboards full of symbols I don't understand.

Infanteer Two Seven · 11-03-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Minardiau

Every member of an armed forces is trained as a riflemen irrespective of what their MOS is.

Just saying

Rifleman can only shoot. is he is he capable of conducting battle maneuvers ?
rifleman doesn't mean ****.... Just saying

Soldat_Américain · 11-03-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Minardiau

Every member of an armed forces is trained as a riflemen irrespective of what their MOS is.

Just saying

Interesting as a guy I went to high school with is a 25B...that means he fixes computers, hasn't touch an M16 once since he's been in the AO...granted he's in Qatar.

trunk_munkey28 · 11-03-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Auzzzie

I'm up for it any time you like.

Yeah, the same way somebody at primary school is trained in mathematics in comparison to some dude at university with a funny hat and a few chalkboards full of symbols I don't understand.

I'll be the first to say that I'm a rarity, but I know I'm a better shooter from 0m to 300 than most of the infanteers across the parade square from me.
I shoot a lot civvy side and lucked into a pretty high speed course along the way.
In any case, my unit qualifes to the same level of Pers Weapons Test as the infantry every year.

Infanteer Two Seven · 11-03-2009, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by trunk_munkey28

I'll be the first to say that I'm a rarity, but I know I'm a better shooter from 0m to 300 than most of the infanteers across the parade square from me.
I shoot a lot civvy side and lucked into a pretty high speed course along the way.
In any case, my unit qualifes to the same level of Pers Weapons Test as the infantry every year.

you do PWT 3 every year ?

trunk_munkey28 · 11-03-2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Infanteer Two Seven

you do PWT 3 every year ?

Yep, pairs live and grenades very second year, alternating. Also, we shot about 300 rounds of service HEDP 84mm in the spring. I ran two Gunfighter ranges as well.

ex Strathcona · 11-03-2009, 05:25 PM

we did a lot of typical Infantry tasks when i was in assault troop, we trained quite often but even then... there was no comparison to what the real infantry were capable of doing especially when you compaired the level physical fitness they were at. even after the extra courses, and months and months of training we were still not at their level.

Infanteer Two Seven · 11-03-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by trunk_munkey28

Yep, pairs live and grenades very second year, alternating. Also, we shot about 300 rounds of service HEDP 84mm in the spring. I ran two Gunfighter ranges as well.

cool didn't know that. i though all that was infantry stuff.
you wannbe's

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Originally Posted by ex Strathcona

we did a lot of typical Infantry tasks when i was in assault troop, we trained quite often but even then... there was no comparison to what the real infantry were capable of doing especially when you compaired the level physical fitness they were at. even after the extra courses, and months and months of training we were still not at their level.

thank you

trunk_munkey28 · 11-03-2009, 05:37 PM

Infanteer 2-7, the thing about reserve armoured recce is that by virtue of our platform, we do a lot of dismounted stuff as well. Granted, not as much as light infantry by any means. Basically, its some of the same stuff, but on a smaller scale and for shorter durations; short recce patrols, OPs, defile drills, etc.

Ex Strat, did you do the actual Assualt Trooper's course? I'm curious, because some of the RCDs I've worked with who were Assualt Troopers were very checked out on their dismounted skills.

ex Strathcona · 11-03-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by trunk_munkey28

Infanteer 2-7, the thing about reserve armoured recce is that by virtue of our platform, we do a lot of dismounted stuff as well. Granted, not as much as light infantry by any means. Basically, its some of the same stuff, but on a smaller scale and for shorter durations; short recce patrols, OPs, defile drills, etc.

Ex Strat, did you do the actual Assualt Trooper's course? I'm curious, because some of the RCDs I've worked with who were Assualt Troopers were very checked out on their dismounted skills.

yes I did, and we were "checked out" but keep in mind that assault troopers didn't specialise as just infantry, that was part... maybe 50% of the role. we also did combat engineer related tasks and of course recce patrols so we were sort of "jack of all trades masters of none"
we knew what we were doing on dismounted ops, but didn't have the level of experience that a 031 would have when it came to doing quick attacks, fighting patrols or ambush patrols. same could be said for the engineering tasks, we where more than capable of breaching minefields, constructing obstacles and defensive positions or demolitions but again, we did not have anything near the level of experience doing any of those things that combat engineers had and i think ultimately this is why today there is no assault troop, or infantry pioneers.

breki · 11-03-2009, 06:04 PM

All combat arms units have to qualify their pers Level 3 once per year, no?

And just remember, Guns don't kill people. I kill people, with Guns.

trunk_munkey28 · 11-03-2009, 06:10 PM

Ex Strat, thanks. I see what you mean. FYI, Assault Troop may be rearing its head again in the next little while. All sort of interesting things came out of the Corps conference this year.

ex Strathcona · 11-03-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by trunk_munkey28

Ex Strat, thanks. I see what you mean. FYI, Assault Troop may be rearing its head again in the next little while. All sort of interesting things came out of the Corps conference this year.

that is the best news i have heard since the words Leopards to Afghanistan were uttered...

Assault troop was the best years of my service

11-03-2009, 04:27 PM	#197
Minardiau Fabio "I wouldn't touch Megan Gale with your dick" Lanzoni Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Leader of the MP.net Socialist Workers Party. Age: 30 Posts: 15,320	Every member of an armed forces is trained as a riflemen irrespective of what their MOS is. Just saying

11-03-2009, 05:25 PM	#204
ex Strathcona Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Lost but making good time, over. Age: 46 Posts: 1,666	we did a lot of typical Infantry tasks when i was in assault troop, we trained quite often but even then... there was no comparison to what the real infantry were capable of doing especially when you compaired the level physical fitness they were at. even after the extra courses, and months and months of training we were still not at their level.

11-03-2009, 05:37 PM	#206
trunk_munkey28 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cowtown Posts: 847	Infanteer 2-7, the thing about reserve armoured recce is that by virtue of our platform, we do a lot of dismounted stuff as well. Granted, not as much as light infantry by any means. Basically, its some of the same stuff, but on a smaller scale and for shorter durations; short recce patrols, OPs, defile drills, etc. Ex Strat, did you do the actual Assualt Trooper's course? I'm curious, because some of the RCDs I've worked with who were Assualt Troopers were very checked out on their dismounted skills.

11-03-2009, 06:04 PM	#208
breki The wrong thread frog Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: It's not easy being green. Posts: 1,938	All combat arms units have to qualify their pers Level 3 once per year, no? And just remember, Guns don't kill people. I kill people, with Guns.

11-03-2009, 06:10 PM	#209
trunk_munkey28 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cowtown Posts: 847	Ex Strat, thanks. I see what you mean. FYI, Assault Troop may be rearing its head again in the next little while. All sort of interesting things came out of the Corps conference this year.